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SODIUM ASCORBATE

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SODIUM ASCORBATE

Postby kenzu0911 » Sun Nov 11, 2012 11:20 pm

Hi to all!

There's something in my mind. Baka meron mga nakagawa na nito.
Open to share your opinion here.. .well appreciated..

Share ko lang,,, ,
One night, i was in the state of alarm when i tested the amonia of my tank, mejo mataas sya, and wla ako pro amonia detox (kent marine)..

Then naisip ko gumamit ng sodium ascorbate as an emergency aid, rather than using ascorbic acid, kasi yung sodium ascorbate daw ay alkaline-based kaya hindi acidic.
So nag-prepare ako ng two test tubes.. Yung isa, nilagyan ko ngpowder ng sodium ascorbate, then yung isa, as-is lang yung water. Then i test them both. yung isa, nagZERO amonia??! So i found-out na pde syang pantagal ng amonia.. i put 3 capsules of sodium ascorbate, and ayun? nagZERO amonia??!! But? dont forget to check its pH. I tested the pH too, mejo tumaas ng konte, then i used pH buffer.. So far, naging ok yung tank ko. But still, im observing my tank's condition from time to time, pero normal naman lahat..

kindly share your ideas if you have somethin in your minds, especially sa mga chemists and experts natin regarding the topic.. What would be the side effects if meron..

Thanks..
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Re: SODIUM ASCORBATE

Postby richardhao » Sun Nov 11, 2012 11:48 pm

Bakit pala may amonia tank mo?
75gal fowlr, 50 gal sump, 45gal cube, hf17 return, ro dnw150
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Re: SODIUM ASCORBATE

Postby seth » Mon Nov 12, 2012 1:45 pm

+1 at richard's post. Hindi na dapat magkaroon ng ammonia sa isang fully cycled tank, unless sobrang dami ng die-offs which could mean there is something wrong with the water, or the system.

Adding Sodium Ascorbate in the test water did not remove the ammonia, actually false reading na yung nangyari dahil nagkaroon na ng reaction yung Sodium Ascorbate sa reagents na ginamit mo para ma-detect yung ammonia, rendering the reagents ineffective.

Kahit anong ilagay mo sa test water sample mo pwedeng maka-apekto sa reading. :P

But for the sake of the argument let's suppose na gumana nga ito somehow:

Kung ii-interpret natin, gumamit ka ng 3 capsules at inilagay mo sa konting test water... isipin mo ngayon kung ilang sodium ascorbate capsules ang dapat mong ilagay para mapababa ang 1 ppm ammonia sa isang 50 gallon tank. :)

Anyway, regarding Sodium Ascorbate and Ascorbic Acid, may mga gumagamit dati nito para sa mga zoa na ayaw bumukas, nilalagay din ito sa homemade food para sa mga isda. Kung may gamit man ito sa aquarium natin, malamang para lang sa benefit ng isda. (Through food)

and for more info on ammonia:

http://reefkeeping.com/issues/2007-02/rhf/index.php#16
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Re: SODIUM ASCORBATE

Postby kenzu0911 » Wed Nov 14, 2012 10:14 pm

i was out of town for two weeks, mga nephews ko lang ang tumitingin, pag-uwi ko, lagi daw pla nila pinapakain, and meron 2 dead fishes na hindi naalis..

The 3 capsules of sodium ascorbate, nilagay ko sa main tank ko..
So hindi pla nwala amonia non? mali pla ko, hehehe..
kasi ung sodium ascorbate na nilagay ko, yung iniinom ko din, nagpapaputi sya ng urine ko, kaya naisip ko lagyan non.. :D pero ok lang sya as vit ng mga livestocks?
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Re: SODIUM ASCORBATE

Postby seth » Wed Nov 14, 2012 10:48 pm

Kung sa main tank, walang effect yun sa test. Malamang nawala yung ammonia dahil konti lang naman ito at dahil established na yung tank mo.

Or pwede rin namang false reading.

:)

Anecdotal lang pero nakakatulong daw yung vitamin c sa immune system ng mga isda, parang claims din sa garlic.

Sabagay wala namang harmful effect yan, magandang antioxidant pa. Pwede mong ihalo sa pagkaib pero wag lang sosobra kasi baka ma-OD.
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