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Re: 20g tank - Valenzuela (Newbie)

Postby seth » Tue Mar 25, 2014 8:55 am

kung makapubta ka ng sabado ng tanghali o hapon dito mas maigi. unang magigi g problema mo sa tank mo init. nakasarado siya so kulob yan. problema rin yung salt creep na makakasira ng ilaw na ilalagay mo.

sad to say di kpa nakabargain bro
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Re: 20g tank - Valenzuela (Newbie)

Postby Excalibur26 » Tue Mar 25, 2014 1:06 pm

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Re: 20g tank - Valenzuela (Newbie)

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Re: 20g tank - Valenzuela (Newbie)

Postby seth » Tue Mar 25, 2014 10:05 pm

haha sayang load, tsaka mapagkakamalan akong bromance puro reefers lang magttxt sa akin. :lol:
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Re: 20g tank - Valenzuela (Newbie)

Postby Excalibur26 » Mon Mar 31, 2014 7:16 am

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Re: 20g tank - Valenzuela (Newbie)

Postby Excalibur26 » Mon Mar 31, 2014 7:32 am

Cleaning my tank procedure, need your inputs mga master kung tama ba ginawa ko...

Note: Ung new SW ko pala minix ko na cya 24 hours before cleaning the tank para daw makasingaw. though I only used deepwell water... I think this cause me a problem kala ko kasi sobrang linis ng deepwell sa amin... check the test results below...

1. binawasan ko ung tubig nagtira ako ng 3/4 size ng tank, ung 1/4 nilagay ko sa bath tub ng baby ko kasama mga corals
2. turned off the filter and removed Live rocks, nilagay sa ibang tub na may SW from tank para hindi matuyo
3, nilinis ko gamit ang sponge(new) ung glass ng tank, head, replaced filter foam(washed first), installed carbon in filter (washed first)
4. bawas SW hanggang abutin ang sand
5. nilamas ang sand sa natitirang SW para mawala ang debris, wag daw banlawan ang sand sabi sa isang forum kasi mawawala daw ung nabuo ng "nutrients"
6. tinaggal lahat ng SW hanggang sa makakaya ng cup wala po kasi akong siphoning equiptment
7. cleaned the Live rocks with toothbrush sa lumang SW then rinse with new SW, wag na daw i-curing process since nasa tank na cya ng more than 1 week
8. aquascape the LR sa sand, installed new skimmer
9. filled 3/4 of my tank with new SW then turned on my filter and skimmer
10. cycled it for 24 hours then tested, eto po ung results

PH - 8.2
Nitrite - 0
Amonia - 0
Nitrate - 40-60

Haven't done water change kasi kinulang salt ko bibili ako later kay fevmarine not sure kng ok lng na blue treasure ung brand na gagamitin ko for WC kasi ibang brand ung nauna ko... so far ung corals ko buhay pa. note na wala silang oxygen or head na nakainstall sa tub.. ang water nila pinalitan ko unti unti ng bagong SW mix kaya kinapos ako pang WC sa tank... pero in good condition sila sobrang nabuhay pa nga...

feedback naman po mga master kng ano tama po ba ang gagawin kong approach para bumaba ung nitrate... pag nag 0 na po ba to pwede na ilagay ang mga corals? pwede ba isabay ang LS?
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Re: 20g tank - Valenzuela (Newbie)

Postby yose_ » Mon Mar 31, 2014 11:00 am

Natawa naman ako dun sa "cycled it for 24 hours". :lol:

Bro better have your corals adopted first until your "restarted" tank have cycled.

Research on the cycling process. Kahit mapababa mo yung nitrates mo di pa established yung bacterial base mo na magpprocess ng nutrients.

Yung tank mo, hayaan mo lang na ganyan. Cycling takes at least 6 weeks. Test mo yung Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrate at least weekly. Magkaka-ammonia spike pa yan kahit 0 reading ngayon. You have to be able to experience this first (in the same order):
1.) Ammonia spike
2.) Nitrite spike while Ammonia going down
3.) Nitrite going down, Nitrate going up, and Ammonia is nearly zero
4.) Ammonia, Nitrite undetectable. Nitrate level high.

Ito pa lang yung first steps, the reason why I stopped there is at after this, nag-iiba iba na approach ng mga tao. Magbasa basa ka din about cycling, so that by the time na nasa stage 4 ka na, may idea ka na ung pano mo itutuloy yung pagccycle mo. :)

You already know that this hobby is expensive...now you have to know that it takes a lot of patience as well. :)

Also, kapag tapos ka na mag-cycle, NEVER do that kind of disturbance like the steps you mentioned above again to your tank. Buti ang konti pa lang ng LS mo. :|
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Re: 20g tank - Valenzuela (Newbie)

Postby seth » Mon Mar 31, 2014 12:00 pm

@Excalibur

It would be a good idea to have your remaining livestock adopted first, iwan mo muna yang tank na walang LS, kumpletuhin muna lahat ng kailangan nila bago mo sila ibalik.

Magiging futile rin yung effort mo na ayusin yung tank kung wala rin yung kailangan ng LS mo para magthrive.
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Re: 20g tank - Valenzuela (Newbie)

Postby Excalibur26 » Mon Mar 31, 2014 12:24 pm

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Re: 20g tank - Valenzuela (Newbie)

Postby Excalibur26 » Mon Mar 31, 2014 12:26 pm

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Re: 20g tank - Valenzuela (Newbie)

Postby yose_ » Mon Mar 31, 2014 1:16 pm

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Re: 20g tank - Valenzuela (Newbie)

Postby seth » Mon Mar 31, 2014 8:48 pm

Good advice from yose_ although magkaiba kami ng approach regarding WCs during cycling. But the end point will be the same. Again it's a matter of time and nutrient availability.

Tama si yose, leave your tank alone. Kung talagang desidido ka na ipursue yung hobby, at least gawin mo ng tama. Iwas gastos at sakit sa ulo ang pagsimula ng maayos.

Tsaka medyo nakakainis yung cutflower mentality bro, iwasan natin yang buy and kill. Hindi okay mamatayan ng coral o isda kahit mura pa yan. Inalis sila sa dagat so kung binili mo yan responsibilidad mo na alagaan sila at gawin yung makakaya mo para mabuhay sila sa tank mo. :)
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Re: 20g tank - Valenzuela (Newbie)

Postby Excalibur26 » Tue Apr 01, 2014 6:02 am

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Re: 20g tank - Valenzuela (Newbie)

Postby Excalibur26 » Tue Apr 01, 2014 6:06 am

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Re: 20g tank - Valenzuela (Newbie)

Postby Excalibur26 » Tue Apr 01, 2014 6:32 am

sir may nabasa po ako sa isang forum na kailangan daw ng skimmer during cycling. tama po ba to? dpo ba wala naman mafifilter ang skimmer kasi malinis pa ung tubig?

Also may nagccycle din po na nilalagyan nila ng snail ung tank, necesarry po ba ito?

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