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Hello sa mga reef lovers...guys pa evaluate naman tank ko :)

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Hello sa mga reef lovers...guys pa evaluate naman tank ko :)

Postby matthew05 » Tue Nov 20, 2012 1:33 am

Just sharing my experience.
Guys i'm new here, this is not my hobby but i don't want to lose these wonderful creatures, Balang araw baka maging hobby ko narin :)
Binili kasi namin nila erpat at ermat to sa cartimar mga 2-3 weeks old pa lang to.. eh biglaan din eh ..dapat isda lang bibilhin namin ..nakita nila magagandang display..ayun napabili..medio mahal nga ata bili namin kasi set namin cya binili..tapos after bumili nagbasa ako indi pala ganun kadali mag maintain ng ganitong set up...pasensya na po sa abala,

gusto ko din share mga matutunan kay ermat at erpat para magkaron din sila knowledge how to maintain this reef tanks..sila naman bumili nito..yoko lang po masayang

AquaStyle 620T 62 W x 72 H x 39 D cm
130 L
2 x 18W PL lamps
750 L/hr 2 x Carbon Cartridge with Filter Wool + 2 x Sponge Pad + Ceramic Noodl
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eto nga pla un food ng fish na gamit namin Ocean Free Super Marine
sa coral naman un parang generic.. Reef Buffer nasa white bottle lang na my green cup
and un label nya print lang na ginupit


try ko po post ng mga pics ..un pinakarecent na pic po ..
dami na kasi namatay na mga live stock..nun bumili kami 20+ fish and un mga corals nagiiba na kulay gs2 ko sana maging healthy sila like ng sa inio kainggit kasi hehe kung panu kau magalaga, ngaun 3 na lang un nagsurvive sa mga fis...gusto ko sana maagapan un tank ko...hanggang maari ok lang po gumastos pa ako para po mamaintain ko and para makapagsurvive na fish na bibilhin ko.
hanggang sa kelangan lang sana un pede ko bilhin..sana mabigyan nio ko ng advice po para maimprove ko un nano tank ko..

kung my time kau try nio po browse un mga high resolution na pics ng reef tank ko po

http://matthew05.imgur.com/all/
pasenxa po medio malaki un mga image d2 sa link...gs2 ko lang kasi makita nio po mabuti anu na condition ng tank pero post po ako ng resize pics

mag post po ako ng pic later

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Re: Hello sa mga reef lovers...guys pa evaluate naman tank k

Postby Monching » Tue Nov 20, 2012 1:55 am

Sir, actually tiningnan ko muna yung mga pics at okay naman siya. pero nagulat ako na binili niyo pala ito ng set sa carti (which means malaki ang chance na hindi siya properly cycled) will cause alot of headaches. kung gusto niyo po talaga maisave yung corals niyo. hanap muna kayo ng mag-adopt ng mga corals mo and kung nasimulan mo na ng tamang cycling method, Pwede nang ibalik sayo yung mga corals mo

Gonioporas are one of the most difficult coral to house in a tank. And your lighting is too weak for corals. Bro, if you want to save your corals. better DONATE for now muna. :(
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Re: Hello sa mga reef lovers...guys pa evaluate naman tank k

Postby matthew05 » Tue Nov 20, 2012 2:05 am

Sir salamat po sa quick reply .. yun nga din nabasa ko..about dun sa cycling ng water diba 2 months yun process na un...sabi ko nga kay ermat ..cincondition pa un tubig nyan...sa carti ko din binili un salt water...iniisip ko nga din yan..indi ba cya pede ilipat sa condition na water na .. pero mag cycling parin ako ng water ko..wala kasi maviview cla ermat eh...pang tanggal daw ng stress nila

uu nga pla ok lang magpalit ako ng ilaw anu marecomend nio?
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Re: Hello sa mga reef lovers...guys pa evaluate naman tank k

Postby Monching » Tue Nov 20, 2012 2:09 am

Marerecommend ko sa ilaw ay T5HO Quads, Metal Halides,LEDS research mo what suites you best.

Pero bro kung magsisimula ka palang. pinakaTAMA talagang gawin bro ay yung pagcycle. IMO, hindi yung water yung kinocondisyon mo kundi yung organics/beneficial bacteria para sa tank mo.
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Re: Hello sa mga reef lovers...guys pa evaluate naman tank k

Postby matthew05 » Tue Nov 20, 2012 2:15 am

dun sa ilaw po sir meron kaya kasukat para dun sa tank ko?

panu kaya kelangan ko ba magsimula from scratch ..? pag ganun ngyari kelangan ko donate muna corals ko? wala maview sila ermat... indi naman pde diba na pabayaan ko tong tank ko tapos separate magsimula ako sa scratch..
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Re: Hello sa mga reef lovers...guys pa evaluate naman tank k

Postby Monching » Tue Nov 20, 2012 2:20 am

In my honest opinion. Better start from scratch. Mas masarap yung wala ka nang pinoproblemang sinasalbang mga corals/isda. idonate mo nalang sila. at ipromise mo nalang sa parents mo na after two months. mas maganda na kamo yung tank na yun. Guided ka naman dito sa forum na ito. para less mistakes na ang mangyari sayo.

maganda dyan for me is LEDS. kaso medyo masakit sa bulsa ang ilaw. para sa beginner, i recommend doing FOWLR (fish only with liverocks) at kapag yung mga fishes mo nagtathrive na (magkaiba yung sa nagsusurvive) it means ready ka na for the next step, REEFING. :)
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Re: Hello sa mga reef lovers...guys pa evaluate naman tank k

Postby matthew05 » Tue Nov 20, 2012 2:26 am

pero meron pa ba way kahit papaano tumagal po tong mga coral and fish ... hirap decide tanong ko po muna... pero willing ako mag start from scratch..sayang dapat pala inalam ko muna...biglaan din kasi..pero sir ching.. ok lang naman diba kahit water muna cycle ko...2 months un diba? saka na ako bili ng mga iba pa pag malapit na matapos un cycle?
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Re: Hello sa mga reef lovers...guys pa evaluate naman tank k

Postby Monching » Tue Nov 20, 2012 2:29 am

I like that nickname :D :D :D :D Sir Ching

Kidding aside, thats what I did when I started. Aquarium tank, Pump (para magcirculate tubig),Liverocks, at livesand yun lang. tapos habang nagsa cycle. nag-iipon na ako pambili ng fishes,pagkain ng fishes,filtration ko etc
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Re: Hello sa mga reef lovers...guys pa evaluate naman tank k

Postby Monching » Tue Nov 20, 2012 2:30 am

And read first on how to properly cycle a tank
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Re: Hello sa mga reef lovers...guys pa evaluate naman tank k

Postby seth » Tue Nov 20, 2012 2:34 am

Welcome to RP, matthew. :)

Let me try to keep my reply as simple and easy to understand as possible:

I agree with monching, maganda kung nakapagsimula ka ng tama para menos sakit ng ulo in the long run. Maganda rin kung mapa-adopt mo nga muna yung mga corals at iba mo pang livestocks, medyo mahirap itong gawin lalo ginastusan niyo na pero makakatulong ito.

Yung flowerpot (goniopora) at mga sponges for advanced reefers yan, kailangan nila ng phytoplankton at supplemental feeding. Eto ang talagang dapat unahin niyong ibenta or ipa-adopt.

Para mapadali ka, may mga magandang threads sa Beginners Forums tungkol sa pag-set up ng tank. Please take some time to read the basics, and pay close attention to the essentials (water parameters) and do not hesitate to ask questions no matter how silly they seem to be. Ang motto natin lagi dapat "di baleng matanong, wag lang nagmamarunong" :)

Unahin mo munang bumili ng testkits at kung wala ka pang hydrometer, bumili ka na rin ASAP.

Kung sakali na hindi pumayag yung parents mo na ipa-adopt yung mga livestocks niyo, eto ang mga ipapayo ko:

-At least 5-10% water changes once a week, until things seem to settle nicely. After a couple of months you can do lesser WCs, as long as you don't add more fish.
-Run some activated carbon
-Check all the parameters, especially specific gravity. Kung may reefer na malapit sa area mo, magpatulong kang magpacheck ng water parameters, ASAP din.
-DO NOT add more fish, corals or any other livestocks. Please resist any urge of adding more livestock. Mamamatay lang yan, sayang lang ang pera at oras. Sayang lang din yung mga binili mo kung mamamatay lang.
-read, read and read. Research - This will be your biggest and most valuable investment. Ipunin mo na lang yung pera mo para makabili ka ng mga talagang kailangan mo, like better light fixtures and pumps.

Ang hirap kasi sa Cartimar, pati na rin sa ibang mga LFS benta lang ng benta. 20 fishes sa isang maliit na tank? Naranasan ko na rin yan. :evil: Ganyan sila sa mga wala pang idea sa pag setup, para makabenta ng madami. Bloody bastards.

Sa aquarium na ganyan kaliit dapat diyan dalawa o tatlong small-sized na isda lang, para hindi ka mahirapan.

hth and goodluck!
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Re: Hello sa mga reef lovers...guys pa evaluate naman tank k

Postby matthew05 » Tue Nov 20, 2012 2:42 am

Sir maraming salamt po.... maraming salamat sa inio...try ko po post un resize pics ko mamaya

tanong ko muna kina ermat ..baka mangyari magccycle nga ako..pero andyan parin yun tank ..sayang naman baka mamatay lang sila kakapanghinayang kasi indi naman basta basta nakukuha lang yan mga yan..hirap mag decide pero kung ako willing ako donate ang magstart..

Uu nga sir .. sa carti parang walang paki..indi man lang kami binigyan ng kahit kunti at simple briefing regarding sa reef tanks... sayang kasi un mga creatures na to eh ..basta makabenta lang cla..indi sila concern sa mga species na to...
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Re: Hello sa mga reef lovers...guys pa evaluate naman tank k

Postby matthew05 » Tue Nov 20, 2012 2:52 am

Salamat .. hay hirap magdecide hehe... sir seth taga munti ka ba ? kita ko kasi profile mo :D
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Re: Hello sa mga reef lovers...guys pa evaluate naman tank k

Postby seth » Tue Nov 20, 2012 3:04 am

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Re: Hello sa mga reef lovers...guys pa evaluate naman tank k

Postby matthew05 » Tue Nov 20, 2012 3:52 am

Opo sir taga munti...cge sana my makilala akong malapit lang dito na nag aalaga din..

thanks po..cge try ko search kung panu magcheck ng mga parameters, kung payag ermat ko pa adopt .. go na po aq..pag indi try ko isalba then mag cycle ako ng water...hay sana maging ok pa yun tank..balak pa naman nila bumili ng fish..indi pla ok pag marami isda..lalo na sa maliit na tank..
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Re: Hello sa mga reef lovers...guys pa evaluate naman tank k

Postby obet_carlos » Tue Nov 20, 2012 5:51 am

hindi ko na nabasa yung mga reply kasi nagmamadali ako pero here are some of my observations.. kung 2-3 weeks na yan at ganyan na yung corals, sa tingin ko, medyo ok na yun bacterial population mo diyan.. however, as they said, gonioporas are one of the hardest corals to take care of.. until recently, next to impossible mag alaga ng gonio even for marine biologist.. kahit ako, hindi pa ako nakakabuhay ng gonio.. mag try pa lang ako.. kaso since masikip na tank ko, im looking for a small red gonio lang.. the buffer with green cap is crap.. ang mahal pa.. i think is just NaHCO3 sodium bicarbonate.. its what we dose for alkalinity, and it raises pH.. 150 benta nila eh wala pang 50 pesos yung 1 kg nun (powder)..

i agree it is better to restart, pero mahirap din yun kasi andyan na yung tank mo.. if you really want that tank, i suggest to remove all the gonios, pamigay mo na lang or adopt or trade back mo sa carti.. change your lights.. DONT add anything for 2-3 weeks para magstabilize na tank mo.. tuloy ko reply ko mamaya at late na ako.. coding ako.. heheh!
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