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The more you learn the less you know

Postby yose_ » Mon Apr 14, 2014 8:49 am

This statement is a good way to get people to think back at what they've learned in their own lives. Just think, as a 5 year old child, you thought you knew 95% of everything you needed to get by in the world. Then you go to school and with each passing year you find out a tiny but about a lot of things! You realize that there is so much that you don't know. From a society standpoint, people with little or no education are usually very sure of what they "know". Whereas, people of higher education are often heard saying that they aren't so bright. An educated person gets an immersion into many more topics than most others, and with each new topic they realize that there is so much more that they can/will never know. The undereducated person rarely ventures into new areas so they become experts in what little they do know and this gives them a false feeling of knowing more than others. These undereducated types usually "know" that there are ghosts, Spacemen, Bigfoot, and so on. And when you hear them speaking of such things they will be heard calling educated people idiots because they don't believe the same things they themselves believe in. So the reverse of the statement serves as a "proof"..The less you learn, the more you "know". (Gunslinger)

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Re: The more you learn the less you know

Postby seth » Mon Apr 14, 2014 10:13 am

True, if there's anything I've learned from this hobby, I think that's that. Even after a decade of keeping a marine tank, I know that I still have much to learn,.after all , the hobby is dynamic and ever changing.

Sig ko puro reference sites lol :lol: a little way of helping others and encouraging them to read and read even more, and become a wise consumer of information.

one thing more to remember, especially for new comers, is the hobby is not a religion so don't treat it as such. Don't blindly believe sweeping statements instead practice a healthy dose of skepticism and take everything with a grain of (iodized) salt. hehehe

That's the last part of my sig, "follow the advice you need to know, not the one you want to hear". :)
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Re: The more you learn the less you know

Postby calvin_91993 » Wed Apr 16, 2014 10:16 pm

My sig? Not much, just a link of my tank thread.

But it shows my documentation of most, if not all, of the things I've been through, my progressions, downfalls, as well as my "bounce-backs".

The thread started December 27, 2012, and although it's not the official date my tank has started, it was the time I was happy and proud enough of what I have done to share it to our small community, to be able to share my experiences, without fear of criticism and being "seen-zoned". I guess I am just really open to learn more.




BTW, the thread title is quite interesting as it says a lot. I agree with what you're pointing out bro yose_, but I personally wouldn't use the term educated (being usually associated with formal education), as I, a Pre-School, Elementary, High School and College graduate am more educated than most individuals I know who have gone a long way, including my parents who merely finished high school. These are the people who have gone through a lot in their lives, where they learned so much to get to where they are now, and probably only a very small percentage of what they have learned was from their formal education, so to speak.

So for me, it's not whether we are educated or uneducated, it is if we are open-minded and willing to learn.
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Re: The more you learn the less you know

Postby alvinbam2728 » Wed Apr 16, 2014 10:20 pm

LOL. Apir Calvin!
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Re: The more you learn the less you know

Postby seth » Wed Apr 16, 2014 10:37 pm

True dat Calvin. I used to teach out of school teens and highschool grads during my stint at a TESDA affiliated school. (Barista/Bartending) Heck, I have even taught professionals that have higher degrees and far more experience than I have.

If I would generalize as well, more often than not, it's the people that have more formal education that has more bullsyet than the ones that don't have a degree (I flunked one smartass student because she was so "educated", hindi ko na siya maturuan ng new ideas in short feeling guru na haha). I have lots of friends and aquaintances that did not even finish HS, but are far more wiser, intelligent and perceptive than I am. And they are far more skilled in their crafts than anyone I could think of.

Trust me on this, the intelligence or merit of a person is not measured on degrees or diplomas but through his experience and his actions. Common sense also count. Haha
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Re: The more you learn the less you know

Postby yose_ » Thu Apr 17, 2014 8:43 am

calvin_91993 wrote:BTW, the thread title is quite interesting as it says a lot. I agree with what you're pointing out bro yose_, but I personally wouldn't use the term educated (being usually associated with formal education), as I, a Pre-School, Elementary, High School and College graduate am more educated than most individuals I know who have gone a long way, including my parents who merely finished high school. These are the people who have gone through a lot in their lives, where they learned so much to get to where they are now, and probably only a very small percentage of what they have learned was from their formal education, so to speak.

So for me, it's not whether we are educated or uneducated, it is if we are open-minded and willing to learn.


Pasensya ka na bro, believe me i totally agree with what you said above.

The thing is, i have always admired that quote, but didnt have the literary talent to explain it well. So that explanation above I only borrowed from someone named "gunslinger" who tried to explain it in his words. Cinonsider ko din palitan yung term na yun before I posted this pero maiiba yung words nung original author. So i just copied the whole thing and referenced him. :)

Anyway, Im sure we both get the idea right? Kahit tingin mo dami mo na alam, the pursuit of knowledge is endless, not just in this hobby but life in general. And those who recognize this are the ones who I see as truly educated. Hindi yung nagmamarunong agad at akala nila sa kanila umiikot ang mundo.

At para maging light naman, try niyo pakinggan yung mga kanta ni loonie na tao lang, tsaka the bobo song. Namemention yung lines na "akala mo alam mo na lahat wala ka pang alam". Again, for the shallow minded, it might sound offnesive. Pero ang real message is about the endless pursuit of knowledge.;)
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Re: The more you learn the less you know

Postby yose_ » Thu Apr 17, 2014 3:14 pm

seth wrote:If I would generalize as well, more often than not, it's the people that have more formal education that has more bullsyet than the ones that don't have a degree (I flunked one smartass student because she was so "educated", hindi ko na siya maturuan ng new ideas in short feeling guru na haha). I have lots of friends and aquaintances that did not even finish HS, but are far more wiser, intelligent and perceptive than I am. And they are far more skilled in their crafts than anyone I could think of.


Sakto paps! Di ba? haha. akala alam na lahat. "feeling guru" - such a common occurrence especially sa mga forums. :lol: :roll:

Wag din tayo madala ng agos, we should value informal education but formal education is just as, if not more important. bottomline, its not about how much formal education (from school) or informal education (from experience) you have. its about understanding (and accepting) that even how much you think you already know, there's still so much you don't know. :idea: wag mag-iimpose ng "kaalaman" sa iba and always have an open mind, malamang may bago ka pang matutunan. :wink:
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Re: The more you learn the less you know

Postby seth » Thu Apr 17, 2014 3:26 pm

Tumpak brader! :lol:
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Re: The more you learn the less you know

Postby Sea Turtle » Thu Apr 17, 2014 3:37 pm

yose_ wrote:From a society standpoint, people with little or no education are usually very sure of what they "know".

Very true. I guess that has something to do with covering up ones incompetence to avoid judgment from others.

yose_ wrote:Whereas, people of higher education are often heard saying that they aren't so bright.

ika nga eh, ang latang walang laman pag kinalog, maingay. ang latang puno, pag kinalog, walang ingay. :mrgreen:

yose_ wrote:The undereducated person rarely ventures into new areas

I couldn't agree more. Venturing out means getting out of your comfort zone. And knowing people, not just the so-called "under-educated" people, can't or won't handle things that are outside of their familiar world. So...

yose_ wrote:These undereducated types usually "know" that there are ghosts, Spacemen, Bigfoot, and so on.

May kapitbahay akong mukhang sasquatch... does that count as proof of their existence? :shock:

yose_ wrote:That's the story behind my signature. What's yours? :roll:

Ang totoo nyan eh wala lang talaga akong magawa sa buhay ko... :roll:
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Re: The more you learn the less you know

Postby calvin_91993 » Sat Apr 19, 2014 6:35 pm

yose_ wrote:
calvin_91993 wrote:BTW, the thread title is quite interesting as it says a lot. I agree with what you're pointing out bro yose_, but I personally wouldn't use the term educated (being usually associated with formal education), as I, a Pre-School, Elementary, High School and College graduate am more educated than most individuals I know who have gone a long way, including my parents who merely finished high school. These are the people who have gone through a lot in their lives, where they learned so much to get to where they are now, and probably only a very small percentage of what they have learned was from their formal education, so to speak.

So for me, it's not whether we are educated or uneducated, it is if we are open-minded and willing to learn.


Pasensya ka na bro, believe me i totally agree with what you said above.

The thing is, i have always admired that quote, but didnt have the literary talent to explain it well. So that explanation above I only borrowed from someone named "gunslinger" who tried to explain it in his words. Cinonsider ko din palitan yung term na yun before I posted this pero maiiba yung words nung original author. So i just copied the whole thing and referenced him. :)

Anyway, Im sure we both get the idea right? Kahit tingin mo dami mo na alam, the pursuit of knowledge is endless, not just in this hobby but life in general. And those who recognize this are the ones who I see as truly educated. Hindi yung nagmamarunong agad at akala nila sa kanila umiikot ang mundo.

At para maging light naman, try niyo pakinggan yung mga kanta ni loonie na tao lang, tsaka the bobo song. Namemention yung lines na "akala mo alam mo na lahat wala ka pang alam". Again, for the shallow minded, it might sound offnesive. Pero ang real message is about the endless pursuit of knowledge.;)


Yep, definitely have that idea. I remember my report in Sociology 3, topic on Education. Outside of formal education, it does not stop as long as the person is willing to learn. :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
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Re: The more you learn the less you know

Postby SantaMonicaHelp » Sat Oct 25, 2014 9:06 am

Thanks for the lesson everybody. Great read 8)
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Re: The more you learn the less you know

Postby obet_carlos » Mon Nov 10, 2014 1:10 pm

akala ko magbebenta ka ng educational plan or something.. hehehe!
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Re: The more you learn the less you know

Postby marvinpb » Thu Jul 02, 2015 2:56 pm

up! great read
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Re: The more you learn the less you know

Postby marvinpb » Thu Jul 02, 2015 3:00 pm

learning starts the day you were born and should end the day you die.

you earn based on what you learn.
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Re: The more you learn the less you know

Postby Luciad60 » Wed Nov 20, 2019 1:09 am

seth wrote:True, if there's anything I've learned from this hobby, I think that's that. Even after a decade of keeping a marine tank, I know that I still have much to learn,.after all , the hobby is dynamic and ever changing.

Sig ko puro reference sites lol :lol: a little way of helping others and encouraging them to read and read even more, and become a wise consumer of information.

one thing more to remember, especially for new comers mutuelles indépendants, is the hobby is not a religion so don't treat it as such. Don't blindly believe sweeping statements instead practice a healthy dose of skepticism and take everything with a grain of (iodized) salt. hehehe

That's the last part of my sig, "follow the advice you need to know, not the one you want to hear". :)

You're right, but you should not dwell too much on the futile things in life.
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