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Re: Two Part Solution

PostPosted: Thu Jan 20, 2011 12:43 pm
by robertjamesgallardo
question... Di po kaya sumobra sa chloride yung tank? Or mawala sa ratio? San po mapupunta yung excess Cl2? And also which is better based on your experience, two part or kalk? Thanks in advance. :)

Re: Two Part Solution

PostPosted: Thu Jan 20, 2011 3:40 pm
by ASAN3.1416
you dont have to worry about the chloride if you do a regular wc , at least 10 to 20% weekly, I've been using diy 2 part additives for almost 2years now with no problem. :D

Re: Two Part Solution

PostPosted: Thu Jan 20, 2011 4:26 pm
by robertjamesgallardo
a... di po ba pwede monthly? Nabasa ko kasi 10% lang daw every month once the tank has completed its cycle. Naguguluhan na po ako. :? :(
(pansin ko din pag ng dadagdag ako ng NaHCO3 dumadami skimmate?)

Re: Two Part Solution

PostPosted: Thu Jan 20, 2011 7:21 pm
by ASAN3.1416
a small frequent water change or large monthly water change would be fine. but since you are asking how could you eliminate the possible accumulation of chloride in the tank due to dosing of diy 2 part additives, IMHO, it's much better to do a frequent at least 10 t0 20% weekly wc to breakdown the chloride present in you tank than 10% monthly wc. for example if you have 100 gal volume system, and do a wc of 20%/weekly , after a month you will have a 59% new water( http://www.hamzasreef.com/Contents/Calc ... Change.php. ) assuming that we have 20ppm of chloride present in the tank, we can safely assumed that the 59% of 20ppm which is more or less 11ppm was exported through 20 weekly wc in a month, than 2ppm of chloride exported through 10% wc/month.HTH :D

Re: Two Part Solution

PostPosted: Fri Jan 21, 2011 12:08 am
by robertjamesgallardo
hehe. Tnx. Gets ko na. Di ko din kasi alam na may test kit pala for chloride (and not chlorine) that's why worried. Still cycling but I'm doing further researching na din. Actually, 4 years na akong nag reresearch (pa putol putol naman), at pabago bago mga opinion, and mga facts na din. Dati sabi when cycling no water change daw dapat kasi sayang yung NH4/NH3 na para sa beneficial bacteria, pero ngayon sabi dapat frequent WC. Ambot na... :? tyagain ko muna magbasa na din dito (and thanks na din po sa mga sumasagot ng aking mga query...) :D

Re:

PostPosted: Fri Feb 04, 2011 3:53 am
by yoki

Re: Two Part Solution

PostPosted: Fri Feb 04, 2011 3:57 am
by yoki

Re: Two Part Solution

PostPosted: Fri Feb 04, 2011 10:31 am
by robertjamesgallardo
a na gits ko na :p (ewan if this makes sense...)
Baka po siguro ginawang CaCl2 + NaHCO3 kasi Cl2- will eventually combine also to the excess Na+ from the alkalinity that was dosed. Since free floating Calcium cannot be used by the corals without the Bicarbonate, they will use the Bicarbonate as well, dropping the alkalinity (as well as calcium) and then leaving sodium and chloride floating, and eventually be a compound which is NaCl2 and will make the water more salty.
In short walang sayang
Sir Nes tama po ba tong pinag sasasabi ko???
:p

Re: Two Part Solution

PostPosted: Fri Feb 04, 2011 10:40 am
by robertjamesgallardo
@yoki oo nga po. Edi pwede din pala na huwag muna mag water change every week? Kasi if this would be the case, then the two part solution would be useless since you replenish the nutrients more often? Or depende din po sa demand ng corals sa Calcium?
???
TIA

Re: Two Part Solution

PostPosted: Fri Feb 04, 2011 10:46 am
by obet_carlos
hindi lang naman Ca ang kailangan sa reef.. marami pang elements.. also WC removes unwanted elements and nutrients..

Re: Two Part Solution

PostPosted: Sat Feb 05, 2011 5:28 pm
by yoki

Re: Two Part Solution

PostPosted: Wed Mar 02, 2011 1:53 pm
by rolex
mga sir la pa po ako corals ngayon since nag cycle po ako ulit for 7 weeks. pero nailagay ko na ung 2tangs ko from quarantine tank.. do i need na po ba ung 2 part dozing? or pag may corals na lang? thanks :D

Re: Two Part Solution

PostPosted: Wed Mar 02, 2011 2:49 pm
by SHOKOY

Re: Two Part Solution

PostPosted: Sun Mar 06, 2011 11:02 am
by rolex
thanks sir shokoy :D

Re: Two Part Solution

PostPosted: Fri Mar 11, 2011 5:06 pm
by blackwidow
questions lang mga bros.. kaninang umaga ng test ko ng Ca ko using api test kit...diko nkuha yung desired na endpoint color sa corresponding drops..so ng dagdag ak ng drops hanggang makuha yung amount at color nka 50 drops ako bago ko nkuha, ang sabi sa api test kit dpat 20-25 drops(400-500) para makuha ang average Ca..every week ako ng susupplement ng Ca..

questions::
1.kailangan ko ba higher dosage ng Ca??
2.kailangan ko din ba tong two part solution na toh??naguguluhan kasi ako kung paano ang process nito,some says that to much Ca can damage the equipments especially yung my mga impellers..
3. ano kailangan sa two partsolution???
4.. ano pa kailangan ko mga bro to maintain my Ca level??any additives or supplements or solution to incorporate with Ca..
5.lastly gaano po kadalas dapat mg dose ng Ca...

hope you can help on this..TIA.....