360G Reef ni Paul

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Re: 360G Reef ni Paul

Postby christian » Fri Sep 26, 2014 3:29 pm

paulmt8 wrote:
christian wrote:if you want to see dip coil in operation... your always welcome to visit me in san pablo city laguna... i gladly entertain a fellow reef here in my house...


Wow lapit lang. Sta. Rosa lang ako. Sige tell me when are you available


after october ill be free most of the time... give me a call at 09228884006
desperately trying to find new ways to ease reefkeeping... :)

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Re: 360G Reef ni Paul

Postby paulmt8 » Fri Sep 26, 2014 4:55 pm

christian wrote:
paulmt8 wrote:
christian wrote:if you want to see dip coil in operation... your always welcome to visit me in san pablo city laguna... i gladly entertain a fellow reef here in my house...


Wow lapit lang. Sta. Rosa lang ako. Sige tell me when are you available


after october ill be free most of the time... give me a call at 09228884006


Thanks Christian
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Re: 360G Reef ni Paul

Postby paulmt8 » Fri Sep 26, 2014 5:04 pm

LEDs DIY

The plan:

1. Can light an SPS dominated 96x30x30 tank.
2. The LEDs must be divided into modules that can be used in smaller tanks and for easier maintenance and repairs.
3. Composed of 2 channels dimmable by 0-10V signal.
4. Bigger heatsinks for better heat management.

The layout:

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The protoype: I need 6 of this

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I will use digital thermometer to monitor the temperature of the leds. Digital ameter to check what current is running on the leds.

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Jebao DC-12000 return pump
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GFO and Biopellet TLF Reactors
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Re: 360G Reef ni Paul

Postby seth » Fri Sep 26, 2014 10:41 pm

If you really want to get the most out of your lights, then use ledil reflectors rather than acrylic optics. The upgrade I will be doing are not technically multichips but Luxeon Ms (the same LED that ATI sirius X fixture is currently using).

As per experience as well, mas sharp ang shadowing sa 3w kumpara sa multichip ko dati due to the nature of their optics.
Isa pang di ko naman nagustuhan sa 3w optics maninilaw sila in time, at sa case ng violets may tendency na masunog.

For 3w LEDs, the best advice I could give is use Luxeon ES royal blues over Epileds. Sobrang layo ng mw output, while using the same if not less watts. If you can manage to get ES neutral whites, cyan and cool blue, that would be great as well. Yung Samsung neutral white panalo rin, kasi mataas ang CRI.
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Re: 360G Reef ni Paul

Postby paulmt8 » Fri Sep 26, 2014 11:16 pm

As of now my main decision point in choosing 3w epileds is the cost. Medyo limited budget for a big tank. It's around 1/3 of the cost of a branded fixture. Anything more than half the cost of branded baka mag Hydra52 na lang ako. Considering the risk of error in LEDs DIY. The last DIY that I did using meanwell drivers flickers when you separate the blues from whites. Kapag sabay okay naman. Medyo may risk talaga na may masayang na parts sa DIY kaya dapat talaga yung sure ka na sa combination ng parts
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Re: 360G Reef ni Paul

Postby seth » Sat Sep 27, 2014 12:21 am

Luxeon ES is generally inexpensive, sulit din talaga lalo sa long term. Have you seen the coralux board yet, pati yung MW LDD drivers? Ang ganda hehe for sure magugustuhan mo yun lalo madaming pwedeng gawin hehe.

Good choice lalo yang Hydra52. :D
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Re: 360G Reef ni Paul

Postby paulmt8 » Sat Sep 27, 2014 12:50 am

Hehehe. Kaya lang out of budget talaga. Sa 360g baka kailangan ko 4 units. Mga 150k na yun. Yung DIY ko ngayon more or less 50k lang aabutin
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Re: 360G Reef ni Paul

Postby christian » Sat Sep 27, 2014 10:13 am

another way to have good lighting in good budget is wait for FS in rp... dont hurry up completing your lights bro... cycle ng ganyan kalaking tank for sure around 2 to 3 months or longer pa
desperately trying to find new ways to ease reefkeeping... :)

75 gallons reef tank:
viewtopic.php?t=1761

180 gallons reef tank of my parents:
viewtopic.php?t=6211

275 gallons reef tank:
viewtopic.php?f=21&t=9506
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Re: 360G Reef ni Paul

Postby paulmt8 » Sat Sep 27, 2014 10:51 am

Kapag siguro nagsawa ako sa DIY ko tapos may budget na to upgrade benta ko na lang at half the cost.l
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Hailea HC-500A Chiller
Reef Octopus NWB200
Jebao DC-12000 return pump
1x Jebao WP25, 1x Jebao WP40
84x 3W LED DIY
GFO and Biopellet TLF Reactors
Reef Angel Contoller
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Re: 360G Reef ni Paul

Postby Leica » Sat Sep 27, 2014 2:39 pm

Ganito bro gamitn mo :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
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Re: 360G Reef ni Paul

Postby seth » Sat Sep 27, 2014 4:53 pm

Haha luxeons rin yan melvs a. :D
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Re: 360G Reef ni Paul

Postby paulmt8 » Sat Sep 27, 2014 5:04 pm

Yan yung gamit ni Batman hehehe
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Reef Octopus NWB200
Jebao DC-12000 return pump
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Re: 360G Reef ni Paul

Postby paulmt8 » Sun Sep 28, 2014 9:14 am

Again, just trying to apply the principles of photography, a more diffused or spread out light source will show the true colors of the subject.

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The second picture uses a direct flash while the first picture used the ceiling and the walls to diffuse the light to have a bigger light source.

Now, let's apply this principle on reef lighting. Spreading the leds will result to more diffused source of light. It will cover every angle with an even intensity of light. This will avoid too many shadows, unless you want that effect.

This is not on the point of view of which configuration is good for the corals but rather what looks good on the eyes of the person looking at the corals.
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Hailea HC-500A Chiller
Reef Octopus NWB200
Jebao DC-12000 return pump
1x Jebao WP25, 1x Jebao WP40
84x 3W LED DIY
GFO and Biopellet TLF Reactors
Reef Angel Contoller
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